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on: August 15, 2012, 10:12
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I don't usually post the commentaries I still write from time to time, mainly for legal reasons, but since this one from August 12th updates and expands the discussion of Secular Valuation Contractions in the book I'm making an exception: http://walterdeemer.com/081212A.pdf

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on: September 6, 2012, 11:14
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The following comments and questions came in via e-mail:

I read this [Secular Valuation Contractions] as Mr. Deemer suggested but I ran a chart on S&P prices with a PE overlay from 1959-2010.

1. It looks to me like most of the "secular decline" might be over. It started in 2000 and made a "double bottom" at around 12 PE already in 2009 and 2011.

2. PE's peaked at 22 in 1962 and 30 in 2000. From 1962 the PE made a "triple bottom" in the mid single digits and the first was in 1975 (12 years). the first one in this decline took only 9 years but was a proportionate in its reduction.

So I guess my question is: Hasn't the market already adjusted for risk premiums i.e. sluggish growth, economic uncertainty, fiscal policy mess? I mean right now, this market is only priced to return in the low to mid single digits as it is? It looks to me like there is a lot more risk in the bond market. As an alternative, don't stocks look like a much better value?

I responded thusly:

Unfortunately, a P/E of 12 is a lot closer to the series' mean than its lows. I agree with you that there is a lot of long-term risk in bonds, but I'm not sure that equities are a particularly safe haven at these levels; the long-term corrective forces at work don't look like they've run their course yet.

Walter Deemer

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